Nagra 3 exploit using a blocker.

Originally Posted by j4v3d

how about you inbox me with what to start off with then? its on a open forum so i think it would be best to keep it underground as you say. If that is allowed.

You get me wrong; I am one of the stubborn ones who has not given up with the scene in the uk.

I am more than willing to help right here on open forum; but I am not going to spoon feed you or give you the answer; you are going to have to work for it

Lets start with some basics.

1) Do you understand how a card in Nagra 1 gives you pictures on the screen ?
2) Do you understand the structure of a ROM ? The bits and what they do ?
3) Have you used something like EMM studio to dissasemble an EMM ?
4) Do you understand AVR cards ?

Just a few Q. to see where everyones at ...

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blocker will only last till entitlements run out in card, prob get you 2 months free tv.. but dont think its worth the hassle tbh

@ THE MONK as stated the Tier dates will expire and we will lose the channels; it will happen slowly in blocks; its not about free TV for me, Never as been. Its what you learn along the way.

There have been ways to write the Tiers on other N3 cards; however its not possible at the moment on UK ROM`s

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what about the rom 142, suppose to be alot kinder than rom 180. i understand what you are doing and experimenting is best way 2 go.. keep up the good work as everyone learning and trying things with yer help..

Originally Posted by Mr_Spark

You get me wrong; I am one of the stubborn ones who has not given up with the scene in the uk.

I am more than willing to help right here on open forum; but I am not going to spoon feed you or give you the answer; you are going to have to work for it

Lets start with some basics.

1) Do you understand how a card in Nagra 1 gives you pictures on the screen ?
2) Do you understand the structure of a ROM ? The bits and what they do ?
3) Have you used something like EMM studio to dissasemble an EMM ?
4) Do you understand AVR cards ?

Just a few Q. to see where everyones at ...

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1 - No
2 - No
3 - No
4 - No

Im a total fail -i think you may have to point me in to where you do your research so i can research and stuff find out as much as possible - talking to you now and trying to answer the questions will be a waste of your valuable time. I hardly know anything about the cards - i know there are diff type of cards and that is all.

Originally Posted by THE MONK

what about the rom 142, suppose to be alot kinder than rom 180. i understand what you are doing and experimenting is best way 2 go.. keep up the good work as everyone learning and trying things with yer help..

Unfortunately the ROM142 and ROM180 are very different; the ROM180 is actually a SECA design and not Atmel ! Atmel may make the thing but they have not designed it.
We must not get confused by “Nagra 3” – Nagra 3 does not exist; its merely a name given by the scene; Kudelski just updates his system constantly; the ROM180 is a product of this. We could call it Nagra 4 because of its custom design.
The RAM has chk sum protection and the actual Core clock of a ROM180 is not constant; this means cmd`s take different times to execute and the actual Code flow timing differs each cycle; this is to make glitching a known point well challenging...
We also have the SECA architecture – which when you look at the dye of the chip is custom designed.
It will not be perfect and we know Kudelski has made mistakes ( just look at the hash he made of the pairing code – schoolboy errors )
I bet we will have a nipper style login
We continue
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Originally Posted by j4v3d

1 - No
2 - No
3 - No
4 - No

Im a total fail -i think you may have to point me in to where you do your research so i can research and stuff find out as much as possible - talking to you now and trying to answer the questions will be a waste of your valuable time. I hardly know anything about the cards - i know there are diff type of cards and that is all.

Just Google my questions - be a good start

mr spark, im not doubting and you no your stuff.. but i cant see anyone making a break throught in rom 180/142 card , like the old days.. unless someone from mr murdoch company leaks out

@The Monk I tend to agree that even in the "old days" the nipper login and original Nagra card dump (ROM3) where leaked; many as you say credit the people @ videoguard (S£Y)

any update on this thread mr spark. how we looking with the blocker.

i have 3 dreambox, 3 atmel, a card with a sub running on dreambox as a card share, that i no longer use but is still running ( running 3 active emu's rqcs+fsef+rqcamd3, and i have all of the numbers necessary for cardshare, dt08 etc ), and also a detonator X card reader. i just need to know what to do next was just getting to know the innerworkings and along came the big site shutdowns and everything seem to end. but i do have some understanding, not a lot