ok im attempting to help someone with there box and cline. so i purchase a line which is i believe an nline (N: server etc etc) on the same day i purchase a line for myself from the same place the guy is very helpful and i manage to power up my skybox f3 so with this new found knowledge i try to help out the other person with his skybox f5 (same procedure i imagined) anyway i put the line on then i notice that its only showing HD channels and only very few SD channels i then update the channel list which works everything is great except if i put certain channels on they work whilst others are still scrambled (eg... premier doesnt but premier+1 does work???) i get absolutley no sport channels. a suggestion is made to update the firmware so i did that too but still nothing??.. i then realise its not a skybox f5 but a openbox v5 i return to the firmware to find ive actually downloaded and installed the openbox v5 firmware anyway but the big question is why doesnt it work fully???? please please help thanks.