Vpn server, double Nat, access to zgemma box

k0103707

Newbie
Hi,

Got 2 asus rt-n66u routers. The first router is my main router which connects to my isp. The second router is a dedicated vpn server. I have managed to get it working nicely and am very happy with it. Behind the vpn server/router i have a zgemma box. All is working great. The problem i have is trying to connect to the zgemma box remotely while i am away from home. Having both routers working together means i have a double NAT situation. I have managed to connect to the zgemma box while connected to both routers by using port forwarding on both this is while in my internal network. What i haven't been able to do successfully is connecting to it remotely outside the house. I use DDNS and place the port while outside my network but it does not connect. I did the same by placing the zgemma box directly behind the first router and it does connect and works fine, however when i put it behind the vpn server/router it does not connect and i am not able to view channels while outside the house. It's a complex problem and needs advanced networking knowledge.
 

k0103707

Newbie
Thread starter
I found a fantastic solution. It works so well. I'll describe things here to help others.

There's a website called zerotier. Incredible technology I didn't know existed. It basically creates a network outside your local network and with an app which you install locally you are able to connect many devices that are internal and external to your local network. The thing is it does not require any port forwarding so your local router is secure as you don't need to open any ports. It is free to use, although there's a paid version too.

I now have 2 routers, one dedicated as a VPN client only connected to nordvpn. The zgemma box behind it, which was inaccessible before is now accessible. I managed to install the zerotier software needed with openpli and have also installed the app on my phone and firestick. I have tested both the firestick and phone so it connects to my local zgemma box while I am away from home or abroad and am able to view whatever I'd like as if I am at home. It works with SD and HD channels.

Apparently wireguard might also do a good job, although I haven't attempted this myself.

I hope this post guides people in the right direction. Google is your friend and I'm sure you'll find the answers I also found.

TLDR: I found a better way of connecting to my local network away from home which is far more secure than traditional VPN. Going through a double NAT and a router dedicated as a VPN client.
 
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Paolinho

Newbie
I found a fantastic solution. It works so well. I'll describe things here to help others.

There's a website called zerotier. Incredible technology I didn't know existed. It basically creates a network outside your local network and with an app which you install locally you are able to connect many devices that are internal and external to your local network. The thing is it does not require any port forwarding so your local router is secure as you don't need to open any ports. It is free to use, although there's a paid version too.

I now have 2 routers, one dedicated as a VPN client only connected to nordvpn. The zgemma box behind it, which was inaccessible before is now accessible. I managed to install the zerotier software needed with openpli and have also installed the app on my phone and firestick. I have tested both the firestick and phone so it connects to my local zgemma box while I am away from home or abroad and am able to view whatever I'd like as if I am at home. It works with SD and HD channels.

Apparently wireguard might also do a good job, although I haven't attempted this myself.

I hope this post guides people in the right direction. Google is your friend and I'm sure you'll find the answers I also found.

TLDR: I found a better way of connecting to my local network away from home which is far more secure than traditional VPN. Going through a double NAT and a router dedicated as a VPN client.
hi there. I tried many things to get connected with my fire stick throught zerotier and just run out of solution. can get an advice how You have managed to do so?
 

k0103707

Newbie
Thread starter
Don't know what your setup is exactly? I use an android phone and downloaded the zero tier app on the phone then transferred the .apk file to the fire stick. All that needs to be done is to place the name of the node on zero tier and then enable zerotier on the fire stick. In the zerotier website in the setup, allow access to the new device to the network, by placing a tick next to the new device. The hardest part is probably setting up zero tier right on the website, that's probably what's giving you a problem. I don't know your situation exactly though
 

DNat7

Member
TK Supporter
I found a fantastic solution. It works so well. I'll describe things here to help others.

There's a website called zerotier. Incredible technology I didn't know existed. It basically creates a network outside your local network and with an app which you install locally you are able to connect many devices that are internal and external to your local network. The thing is it does not require any port forwarding so your local router is secure as you don't need to open any ports. It is free to use, although there's a paid version too.

I now have 2 routers, one dedicated as a VPN client only connected to nordvpn. The zgemma box behind it, which was inaccessible before is now accessible. I managed to install the zerotier software needed with openpli and have also installed the app on my phone and firestick. I have tested both the firestick and phone so it connects to my local zgemma box while I am away from home or abroad and am able to view whatever I'd like as if I am at home. It works with SD and HD channels.

Apparently wireguard might also do a good job, although I haven't attempted this myself.

I hope this post guides people in the right direction. Google is your friend and I'm sure you'll find the answers I also found.

TLDR: I found a better way of connecting to my local network away from home which is far more secure than traditional VPN. Going through a double NAT and a router dedicated as a VPN client.
Thanks, just what i was looking for.
 

Paolinho

Newbie
Don't know what your setup is exactly? I use an android phone and downloaded the zero tier app on the phone then transferred the .apk file to the fire stick. All that needs to be done is to place the name of the node on zero tier and then enable zerotier on the fire stick. In the zerotier website in the setup, allow access to the new device to the network, by placing a tick next to the new device. The hardest part is probably setting up zero tier right on the website, that's probably what's giving you a problem. I don't know your situation exactly though
Hi, many thanks for quick response last time. I've done all what you instructed me. Got es Explorer on both. The trouble is can connect them through explorer. I have both open and can see on my phone when I try to transfer an APK it shows "connection closed" on fire stick. Just don't know how to pair them together. Any advice will be much appreciated.
 
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