No they have the same Starview box as me, I was the one who set them up with them in the first place. But I know now why theirs are still running, it's because they are not due to be disconnected until a couple of weeks time. You can bet your bottom dollar even if they pay their subs now, the boxes will not stay connected, and as soon as the expire date comes they will have the same login message. I have advised them not to renew their subs.