sorry, did a factory reset using hd300n_sc_rs232_1013.bin then installed patch 1 uad sw and auto update then patch 2 uad sw update, then factory reset , then installed carling_hd+_combo with cccam_ fix_0524.uad factory reset, then scanned channels, went to network 8989 checked ip all ok put info of cline in saved all then exited, went to scrambled channel ie sly sports shows scrambled, goto fta channels all work, so checked ethernet cable on laptop all ok checked cline on my dreambox 500s works ok, all this done on the same cables as starview hd using, but 1 box at a time, so i still dont whats wrong all your help is thanked in advance.