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no, if you are on 100mbps VM then you get 100mbps to the hub/router (if you're lucky and get the full 100mbps), that is then split amongst devices, so one connected device will get the full 100mbps, 10 devices won't get 100mbps each, but it will be spread accross the 10 devices.
 
I'm fairly sure you do get the full speed per item
That's where the bandwidth comes in
It can only give you the full speed if you have enough bandwidth, that's when the speed drops, there isn't enough bandwidth to accommodate the speed to everything
Not correct. The max download speed will be spread across the amount of devices used. Hard wired will always get the best connection over wifi and in mike123 case his gaming devices will eat into that 200 meg. I only have around 35-40 mbps but a house with 4 people who all use the net it is more than enough for day to day use.
 
Not correct. The max download speed will be spread across the amount of devices used. Hard wired will always get the best connection over wifi and in mike123 case his gaming devices will eat into that 200 meg. I only have around 35-40 mbps but a house with 4 people who all use the net it is more than enough for day to day use.
Thats strange I get 35mbps now my Android tv hardwired and my sons pc hardwired no soon as he starts to download a game say 14-15 gig game my speed to my TV goes to about 1.2 mbps and same with all other devices but yet he's getting the full speeds.
No soon as he pauses the download the speed picks back up downstairs to what they should be
 
Thats strange I get 35mbps now my Android tv hardwired and my sons pc hardwired no soon as he starts to download a game say 14-15 gig game my speed to my TV goes to about 1.2 mbps and same with all other devices but yet he's getting the full speeds.
No soon as he pauses the download the speed picks back up downstairs to what they should be
Downloading is not the same bazz. This is why gaming requires so much data as its technically constant downloading in effect unlike a stream/video/browsing connection which will use a fixed amount of data per device. Downloading will kill everything else connected on lower download speeds
 
Not correct. The max download speed will be spread across the amount of devices used. Hard wired will always get the best connection over wifi and in mike123 case his gaming devices will eat into that 200 meg. I only have around 35-40 mbps but a house with 4 people who all use the net it is more than enough for day to day use.
Thats strange I get 35mbps now my Android tv hardwired and my sons pc hardwired no soon as he starts to download a game say 14-15 gig game my speed to my TV goes to about 1.2 mbps and same with all other devices but yet he's getting the full speeds.
No soon as he pauses the download the speed picks back up downstairs to what they should be

its because you dont have enough bandwidth

little experiment that I have done
try a speedtest on 3 or 4 devices at the same time
on my shed laptop, hardwired to shed via 4 switches then wifi about 2m to laptop
sons PS5 hardwired via 3 switches
laptop in livingroom about 4m and one brick wall to first switch

all get almost exact same speeds at the exact same time,
a speedtest uses virtually no bandwidth
I can also do a speedtest while my lad is playing his PS5 and my speedtest shows max speed
your router cant change the speed, or share it out, it can only share bandwidth
 
its because you dont have enough bandwidth

little experiment that I have done
try a speedtest on 3 or 4 devices at the same time
on my shed laptop, hardwired to shed via 4 switches then wifi about 2m to laptop
sons PS5 hardwired via 3 switches
laptop in livingroom about 4m and one brick wall to first switch

all get almost exact same speeds at the exact same time,
a speedtest uses virtually no bandwidth
I can also do a speedtest while my lad is playing his PS5 and my speedtest shows max speed
your router cant change the speed, or share it out, it can only share bandwidth
Thanks for tip mate never thought about multiple devicess
 
You dont what ever gadget you are using will demand an amount of bandwidth

If you have some proper traffic managment software you can see how it works.

200 meg download = maximum download speed . It also means the max bandwidth is 200 meg.

If I stream say a 4k film that may require upto 80 meg

If I then try to download something on the pc the max speed I would get is 120 meg.

Bandwidth is the total download speed going to your router.

Each device requires a certain amount of that speed depending on what you are doing.
 
You dont what ever gadget you are using will demand an amount of bandwidth

If you have some proper traffic managment software you can see how it works.

200 meg download = maximum download speed . It also means the max bandwidth is 200 meg.

If I stream say a 4k film that may require upto 80 meg

If I then try to download something on the pc the max speed I would get is 120 meg.

Bandwidth is the total download speed going to your router.

Each device requires a certain amount of that speed depending on what you are doing.
I disagree, yes your max speed is 200 meg, but multiple devices will use more bandwidth if they are all trying to download at 200 meg
Try the speed test for yourself, you will get 200 meg on each device as the test requires minimal bandwidth,
Think of a motorway,
70 mph, but only 3 lanes, 3 lanes is the width, and all 3 cars can do 70, add another car, and there is no room, the 3 cars have to slow down and drive closer together to give car 4 room to join them,
Add another car, they have to drive even closer and drive even slower,
Add a lorry, the cars drive even slower and the lorry takes up more bandwidth than a car, the lorry bullies the cars over so it can go faster.
A really simply analogy, but think about it.
 
Your anology is exactly what I have been saying really.

If you have 200 meg that is the total your ISP has allocated you and your device will try to demand it however will not succeed if other devices are connected.
 
Your anology is exactly what I have been saying really.

If you have 200 meg that is the total your ISP has allocated you and your device will try to demand it however will not succeed if other devices are connected.
No, you can get it, depending on how many devices, your speed won't drop, the ability to stay at the speed will drop when too many devices all want the same piece of road and there is not enough room for them.
Hence the lorry bullying everyone over so it has enough room to achieve its maximum speed, and keeping everything else going slower
 
I have just tried this no other devices were connected.

Download speed on pc connected to network. 215 meg download speed.

Then started 4k film on sheild speed dropped to 140 meg on pc.

Then added xbox got son to play call of duty speed in pc dropped again to 90 meg.
 
speed and bandwidth are near enough the same thing, if you have a bandwidth allowance of 200mbps that is the speed your router will have been allocated by the ISP. if you have 2 devices then both using bandwidth they will NOT get 200mbps each from the internet, they can't as the router would max out at 200 total.

The speed/bandwidth each device gets depends on a few things including the max speed of the network adaptor on the device and the number of devices connected. if you have two devices with 100mbps network adaptors then they will never get more than 100mbps, and if just one or both are using the internet then they could get the max 100mbps each, however if there are 5 devices using data then they wont get 100mbps each.

If each device has 1gbit network adaptors then the max they will get is a total of 200mbps from the internet as thats the max going to the router, the max speed between the router and each device may indeed be higher than 200mbps, but it will be throttled by the max 200mbps available to the router from the ISP.

Another way to look at it, turn on the garden tap with a hose connected and you will get water coming out of the end of the hose at x litres per second, now connect a T piece to the tap and connect two hoses to it, you will get x/2 litres per second of water coming out of each hose, the speed the water comes out of each hose is slower than if there was just one hose connected.
 
speed and bandwidth are near enough the same thing, if you have a bandwidth allowance of 200mbps that is the speed your router will have been allocated by the ISP. if you have 2 devices then both using bandwidth they will NOT get 200mbps each from the internet, they can't as the router would max out at 200 total.

The speed/bandwidth each device gets depends on a few things including the max speed of the network adaptor on the device and the number of devices connected. if you have two devices with 100mbps network adaptors then they will never get more than 100mbps, and if just one or both are using the internet then they could get the max 100mbps each, however if there are 5 devices using data then they wont get 100mbps each.

If each device has 1gbit network adaptors then the max they will get is a total of 200mbps from the internet as thats the max going to the router, the max speed between the router and each device may indeed be higher than 200mbps, but it will be throttled by the max 200mbps available to the router from the ISP.

Another way to look at it, turn on the garden tap with a hose connected and you will get water coming out of the end of the hose at x litres per second, now connect a T piece to the tap and connect two hoses to it, you will get x/2 litres per second of water coming out of each hose, the speed the water comes out of each hose is slower than if there was just one hose connected.
That's pretty much what I have been saying all along. You will not get download speeds of 200 meg to each device as @steptoe suggests
 
think about all the people moaning about their VPNs,
the speeds are adequte for IPTV
but the VPN server is flooded with connections that it doesnt have the banndwidth to serve
Your concept of how download speeds and bandwidth differ is incorrect. Grog and mike123 have explained exactly how it works the same as i posted earlier why someone downloading or gaming will reduce the speeds vastly on other devices (quite simple) Like a piece of cake to share with 5 people but somebody sneaks 3/4 in one go so 1/4 slice left to feed 4 others
 
Your concept of how download speeds and bandwidth differ is incorrect. Grog and mike123 have explained exactly how it works the same as i posted earlier why someone downloading or gaming will reduce the speeds vastly on other devices (quite simple) Like a piece of cake to share with 5 people but somebody sneaks 3/4 in one go so 1/4 slice left to feed 4 others
yes, same as if one of the hosepipes was wider than the 2nd, or you put a pump on the end, then more water would go through that hose, the point I was trying to make is the same, you can't get water out of the tap faster than what is being pumped to the tap from the mains, in the same way you can't get internet faster on your home network than the rate it's being sent to the router
 
yes, same as if one of the hosepipes was wider than the 2nd, or you put a pump on the end, then more water would go through that hose, the point I was trying to make is the same, you can't get water out of the tap faster than what is being pumped to the tap from the mains, in the same way you can't get internet faster on your home network than the rate it's being sent to the router
But i like cake not water MR Grog :blush:
 
Thats strange I get 35mbps now my Android tv hardwired and my sons pc hardwired no soon as he starts to download a game say 14-15 gig game my speed to my TV goes to about 1.2 mbps and same with all other devices but yet he's getting the full speeds.
No soon as he pauses the download the speed picks back up downstairs to what they should be
The traffic managment on your router is poor. If set up correctly it should let you use your smart tv. However, your sons game will download slower. Although if you keep adding devices to the network you will eventually have problems.
 
The traffic managment on your router is poor. If set up correctly it should let you use your smart tv. However, your sons game will download slower. Although if you keep adding devices to the network you will eventually have problems.
They sent me a new router exact same and ain't a clue how to sort traffic management lol
 
yes, same as if one of the hosepipes was wider than the 2nd, or you put a pump on the end, then more water would go through that hose, the point I was trying to make is the same, you can't get water out of the tap faster than what is being pumped to the tap from the mains, in the same way you can't get internet faster on your home network than the rate it's being sent to the router
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