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Erodub

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I live in rural countryside, and the b*****d that owns the lane to my house will not allow the installation of fibre to my house. I have spoken to him nicely and tried to bribe him with alcohol, all to no avail.

I made the decision to go with Mobile Broadband using Three 3, but their signal is not great, or I would like it to be better. I was looking at adding an antenna to see if I could boost the signal I am receiving, but which one?

I looked at YouTube, and the cheaper ones are pants, according to the reviews, and the other ones require finding the nearest tower to point at. I have no idea where the nearest Three 3 tower is, and I wouldn't know where to start to try to find it.

Has anyone had experience with 3G, 4G & LTE antennas?
 
3 now do a router complete with outdoor kit. If you are thinking of going down the 4g 5g router you need to do lots of home work. Don't just sign up and take a punt. Firstly start off by looking at a 5g coverage checker here 5G Coverage Checker – Compare coverage on all UK networks.

Find the best signal for indoor and outdoors use, then buy a sim on that network on payg and test it in your phones. Next ask yourself do you rely on a signal for work ect as a 4g/5g signal is not as reliable.

How does the landland line telephone get to your house does in come via a pole or underground. If its underground openreach can pull new cables through without having to dig up the lane. Lastly i know its very expensive but what about starlink.
 
kegnkiwi said:
3 now do a router complete with outdoor kit. If you are thinking of going down the 4g 5g router you need to do lots of home work. Don't just sign up and take a punt. Firstly start off by looking at a 5g coverage checker here 5G Coverage Checker – Compare coverage on all UK networks.

Find the best signal for indoor and outdoors use, then buy a sim on that network on payg and test it in your phones. Next ask yourself do you rely on a signal for work ect as a 4g/5g signal is not as reliable.

How does the landland line telephone get to your house does in come via a pole or underground. If its underground openreach can pull new cables through without having to dig up the lane. Lastly i know its very expensive but what about starlink.
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Thank you for your reply and suggestions.

Three didn't mention anything about an outdoor kit, probably as there is poor 4G and no 5G coverage on Three 3 where I am. I took the Three 3 router a couple of months back as it was much better than the PlusNet landline, so it looks like I am tied for 24 months. Generally, none of the mobile carriers have good 5G coverage here.

The landline telephone is on poles; the main reason the lane owner will not allow fibre is that he does not want any poles or trunking installed along the lane. I offered to pay for the trunking installation, but it was like talking to a brick wall.

I couldn't afford to even look at Starlink
 
Erodub said:
Thank you for your reply and suggestions.

Three didn't mention anything about an outdoor kit, probably as there is poor 4G and no 5G coverage on Three 3 where I am. I took the Three 3 router a couple of months back as it was much better than the PlusNet landline, so it looks like I am tied for 24 months. Generally, none of the mobile carriers have good 5G coverage here.

The landline telephone is on poles; the main reason the lane owner will not allow fibre is that he does not want any poles or trunking installed along the lane. I offered to pay for the trunking installation, but it was like talking to a brick wall.

I couldn't afford to even look at Starlink
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I've got BT/EE Full Fibre, new cables on existing poles, can they not do that where you are ?.
 
Many years ago before i had internet i had a router that i plugged a usb into which contained a mobile sim card.
It had 2 aerials on it and using inside house.
 
Get a 4g/5g router with removable aerials , then get a poynting 4g/5g aerial. Have a read as there are a few different types. Don’t get an aerial with 1 wire that will half the speed. Put it up as high as possible but also keep the wiring as short as possible , I have a 5m extension on mine so 10m in total and haven’t noticed any speed loss.
 
Erodub said:
It's not that they cannot do it, it's that the landowner will not allow them to do it.
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Even if they only use existing poles ?.

Googled this - "The Electronic Communications Code (ECC)"
Existing Poles: - "If the new full fibre installation utilizes existing telegraph poles, the code generally allows for the installation of new cables on or between those poles".
"In summary, while a landowner's ability to object to full fibre installation using existing poles is limited by the ECC, they still have rights to negotiate terms, seek compensation, and potentially influence the installation process to minimize disruption and impact on their property".
 
Scufferoo said:
Get a 4g/5g router with removable aerials , then get a poynting 4g/5g aerial. Have a read as there are a few different types. Don’t get an aerial with 1 wire that will half the speed. Put it up as high as possible but also keep the wiring as short as possible , I have a 5m extension on mine so 10m in total and haven’t noticed any speed loss.
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I think you are talking about the Poynting XPOL-1-5G Omni 2x2 MIMO 4G/5G Antenna. Someone on another forum mentioned the Poynting 4G-XPOL-A0001 Cross Polarised 4G Omni LTE Antenna. I take it the XPOL-1-5G is the newer version.
 
mike142 said:
Even if they only use existing poles ?.

Googled this - "The Electronic Communications Code (ECC)"
Existing Poles: - "If the new full fibre installation utilizes existing telegraph poles, the code generally allows for the installation of new cables on or between those poles".
"In summary, while a landowner's ability to object to full fibre installation using existing poles is limited by the ECC, they still have rights to negotiate terms, seek compensation, and potentially influence the installation process to minimize disruption and impact on their property".
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Mike, I have had this out with OpenReach, Broadband suppliers and spent money on solicitors, the result is the same. Because the fibre installation is regarded as an 'optional unnecessary' service, the landowner can say no. If it were water or sewage, then he has no option but to let it be installed. OpenReach say that they would need to install several new poles, as the copper originally came through another route that is not available to them now. I was tearing hair out of my head for almost two years, fighting with people to get this fibre installed, but the day I got the Three router, there was a weight taken off my shoulders.
 
Re the poynting , I have the omni 4g , if it’s omni it doesn’t have to point directly at the mast though in my experience tweaking it can get a better reception. It’s the 2x2 you want, I read that there is a problem with a certain frequency that 3 use, so read the poynting description and check it can receive the frequencies that your mast uses.
 
An aerial Won’t boost the signal , it will just the receive the signal that is there , the hope being that it is a better signal outside up in the air than in say your living room where the router might be. A simple test is do a speed test on your phone in the house, then disconnect from Wi-Fi so you are using mobile data and put your phone where the aerial would be and run a speed test. If you try it on the different sides of the house then you will find the best location
 
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