Been reading thru more off this viark sat 4k thread , and yes I have couple more questions guys I new I would , ( I mentioned earlier that hopefully my box arrives next week had to order from Spain no one in UK had in stock ,) my question when I get viark before I upload current v1.25 software to activate my three years sp1 sub does the box need to have it's firmware updated first read on this thread , firmware needs to occasionally be updated also to make sure your running on right new server so you don't loose channels ? What's the current up to date firmware for viark sat 4k ? So I can check the reciever is on latest firmware before I update to v1.25 and after I update to v1.25 do I do serial number validation code on the validation web side then ? Or before applying v1.25 thanks again guys sorry bit long winded but I don't want fff the box up .