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How can I watch the same channel in another room on my zGemma H.2S?

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Trainor

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Hey, I was wondering if anyone could give me some advice.

Before cancelling Sky and getting a zGemma H.2S I had coax running from the RF2 port on the back of my Sky box to a splitter in the roofspace which was then distributed to the rest of the rooms in the house. None of them were able to change channel but that was ok. I was wondering if anyone knows of any adapters or anything that I can use with the H.2S to send the signal to another room?

I seen some people using RF Modulators on different boxes but the H.2S does not have a Scart port.

Any advice would be appreciated :)
 
you can connect the red/white/yellow to a scart adaptor (c£99p) and use what you have already been looking at if you are happy with the setup you had before.
 
i use a hdmi splitter and just run a hdmi wire to your other tv get both for under £15 on e-bay and you can download timote app for your phone then you can change channels from other room
 
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To use your existing infrastructure of coax to loft then distributed to other rooms you simply need to buy an RF modulator. This is because the zgemma has no 'RF out' so you need something to take the AV from the red/white/yellow leads and convert it into a 'TV station' to pass over coax. As other people have said there are alternatives but that addition would allow you to keep everything pretty much as-is, apart from having to retune the other TVs. If the RF modulator only has a scart input on it make sure you get an adpater as the zgemma out isn't scart.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B017GCGOPE

Note that you might want to look into one of the RF modulators that also pass the TV remote controls back over the coax, should your distribution amp in the loft support this, then the other TVs could change channel too. Just a thought.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B002R634DU
 
richsimpson said:
you can connect the red/white/yellow to a scart adaptor (c£99p) and use what you have already been looking at if you are happy with the setup you had before.
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I never even thought of the composite to scart idea. Thanks

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Thanks zfa...

So let me get this right... (Presuming I buy a Triax Tri Link)

On the zGemma Box I plug composite (scart adapter), then on Modulator (input side) i plug scart. Then 1 of the dish feeds go in to the modulator and one stays in the zGemma. Then the coax running to the loft goes to RF2 on modulator. I continue using one satellite cable in the zGemma and continue to use HDMI from the zGemma to the TV. The scart out on the modulator would not have anything connected as I would be using HDMI. Does that sound right?

Also, with the H2.s the two satellite cables are required for recording & watching another channel at the same time, would this be affected?
 
Hi Trainor,

Nearly there but not quite... As you correctly say at the end of your post the Zgemma needs the two satellite cables in it for watching/recording. So you can't and don't alter the two cables going from your dish to the satellite receiver for this reason.

The input to the Triax box actually needs to be the composite video from the Zgemma going into the input side SCART on the modulator (via adapter) and also the coax cable that used to go into your 'ANTENNA IN' on your old Sky box (i.e. the lead from your normal rooftop aerial - NOT one of the satellite dish feeds). If you never had an aerial hooked up to your old Sky box before then you can omit it but most people would have. Then the lead that used to go into the RF2 on your old Sky box is the OUTPUT of the modulator and runs to the loft.

To summarise what is happening the rooftop aerial goes into the Triax as well as the composite video signal and it then mixes the two putting the composite signal on top of the old TV signals as a new channel. This combination of the old TV signals and new channel (which is the zgemma output) is then sent up to your loft for distributing to all the other TVs. If you didn't previously have an antenna in on the old Sky box then there's no mixing - the composite video is simply being turned into a TV station by the modulator and put out on the lead that used to plug into the RF2 socket.

Make sense? Let me know if I need to go over any of it again as I know it's a bit confusing when written down!

EDIT: You can ignor the RF2 on the modulator... this is for if you wanted to control a Sky box, which you don't as you're now using a Zgemma... you just need the scart in, the rf out and possibly the rf in if you had an old rooftop aerial going into your Sky box previously.

EDIT EDIT: If you don't need the remote control being passed back from the remote TVs, this is a cheaper unit and doesn't have the 'RF2' socket to confuse you!

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mercury-350-111-12V-250mA-Modulator/dp/B000M6SMKW
 
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zfa said:
Hi Trainor,

Nearly there but not quite... As you correctly say at the end of your post the Zgemma needs the two satellite cables in it for watching/recording. So you can't and don't alter the two cables going from your dish to the satellite receiver for this reason.

The input to the Triax box actually needs to be the composite video from the Zgemma going into the input side SCART on the modulator (via adapter) and also the coax cable that used to go into your 'ANTENNA IN' on your old Sky box (i.e. the lead from your normal rooftop aerial - NOT one of the satellite dish feeds). If you never had an aerial hooked up to your old Sky box before then you can omit it but most people would have. Then the lead that used to go into the RF2 on your old Sky box is the OUTPUT of the modulator and runs to the loft.

To summarise what is happening the rooftop aerial goes into the Triax as well as the composite video signal and it then mixes the two putting the composite signal on top of the old TV signals as a new channel. This combination of the old TV signals and new channel (which is the zgemma output) is then sent up to your loft for distributing to all the other TVs. If you didn't previously have an antenna in on the old Sky box then there's no mixing - the composite video is simply being turned into a TV station by the modulator and put out on the lead that used to plug into the RF2 socket.

Make sense? Let me know if I need to go over any of it again as I know it's a bit confusing when written down!

EDIT: You can ignor the RF2 on the modulator... this is for if you wanted to control a Sky box, which you don't as you're now using a Zgemma... you just need the scart in, the rf out and possibly the rf in if you had an old rooftop aerial going into your Sky box previously.

EDIT EDIT: If you don't need the remote control being passed back from the remote TVs, this is a cheaper unit and doesn't have the 'RF2' socket to confuse you!

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mercury-350-111-12V-250mA-Modulator/dp/B000M6SMKW
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Ok, that explains a LOT. Thanks for dumbing that down for me :D

I think I will get the Triax ordered today and play about with it over the weekend. I just watched this video about setting up the Triax and seen it is possible to change channel on the box he is using with an IR sensor similar to this plugged in to the Triax and a magic eye on a few of the secondary TVs so I will maybe try that out too. For changing channel the RF2 port must be used I believe.

I will let you know how I get on.

Thanks very much for your help :)
 
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No problem. Just bear in mind the magic eye stuff will only work if your loft distribution amp supports it (and your antenna sockets but they're mostly fine). This is just because the IR signals have to pass back up into the amp and back down that source wire to the Triax and not all of them allow this.

If magic eyes worked on your old Sky setup then it'll carry on working but if you never tried it before it might or might not. Still it's a freebie on the Triax box you're getting so might as well give it a go. Good if it works.
 
I've been hunting for info on how to connect h2s to another TV via my existing magic eye setup, which runs to a powered quad splitter.

Questions now answered.

Thanks guys :hurray:yeehaa
 
londonfox said:
i use a hdmi splitter and just run a hdmi wire to your other tv get both for under £15 on e-bay and you can download timote app for your phone then you can change channels from other room
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First of all apologies for bumping an old thread but its pretty much along the lines of my query.

I had an old coax cable from Sky box in the corner of the sitting room going to splitter/amplifier below it and then running through the wall to the kitchen behind. Cable length is only around 5 or 6 feet. No magic eye or the likes. Whatever was on the Sky box in the sitting room we could watch in the kitchen but now that we have ditched Sky and got a zgemma h2s box we cant watch with that method now. So would a hdmi splitter on its own work alright?

I seen a link posted for a vision v40-114 modulator but it is very expensive. Whats the cheapest option available to me?

Thanks in advance


Forgot to add: Would something like this work? ....and just to note that Im not very technically minded unfortunately
 
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Kitchen TV have phono inputs or a "Scart in"?

If I'm understanding your old set-up correctly then you could cheaply emulate what you had by using the zGemma phono outs - either directly to the TV (cables £2 - £3) or same cables into a cheap phono>Scart adapter (£2).
You could even get a "phono>Scart" lead for £4 - £5.
 
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Covered many times before

go to google and search for rf modulator techkings
will be up loads of threads giving full details on modulators
 
yee_har said:
Kitchen TV have phono inputs or a "Scart in"?

If I'm understanding your old set-up correctly then you could cheaply emulate what you had by using the zGemma phono outs - either directly to the TV (cables £2 - £3) or same cables into a cheap phono>Scart adapter (£2).
You could even get a "phono>Scart" lead for £4 - £5.
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Price wise that sounds good. I think it was my son mentioned that he thought it could be done this way but again he wasnt sure. I dont think the leads that came with the box would be long enough but Im assuming that they can be bought in different lengths. I'll also need to check out what inputs are in the kitchen telly

Thanks for the reply.

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siilver said:
Covered many times before

go to google and search for rf modulator techkings
will be up loads of threads giving full details on modulators
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Thanks for that. I googled what I was looking for originally and got a link to this thread. Will do a bit of searching again now.

Cheers
 
heres what i do

use a computer / laptop running vlc web plugin for firefox

goto the setop boxes web interface assuming your running an enigma image then click the little stream icon voila your now streaming via network to your other room

This also works with older versions of xbmc media center which still have the tuxbox source code compiled into it,
Which is much more tv like expieriance as your bouqets render in xbmc list format and you can zap channels from there also
 
mad joe said:
londonfox said:
i use a hdmi splitter and just run a hdmi wire to your other tv get both for under £15 on e-bay and you can download timote app for your phone then you can change channels from other room
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First of all apologies for bumping an old thread but its pretty much along the lines of my query.

I had an old coax cable from Sky box in the corner of the sitting room going to splitter/amplifier below it and then running through the wall to the kitchen behind. Cable length is only around 5 or 6 feet. No magic eye or the likes. Whatever was on the Sky box in the sitting room we could watch in the kitchen but now that we have ditched Sky and got a zgemma h2s box we cant watch with that method now. So would a hdmi splitter on its own work alright?

I seen a link posted for a vision v40-114 modulator but it is very expensive. Whats the cheapest option available to me?

Thanks in advance


Forgot to add: Would something like this work? ....and just to note that Im not very technically minded unfortunately
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Yes this would work & also give you a better quality picture than you would get with the RF modular. If you wanted to change chanels on the 2nd tv you could get this IR device https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01GR2C3M2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_PYrqybHRDEK69

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Hi, I had a similar problem but mine was connecting my DVD hdd recorder to my Zgemma box I used rca leads with a scart socket on the other end. I didn't use a HDMI lead because my DVD recorder doesn't have one and the leads all come in different lengths.
i get really good picture quality back as well
 
Would it not be easier to just use a raspberry pi running kodi with vu+ add on installed which will show you all the zgemma channels and allow you to do everything as if you where in front of the box

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