Lots of reading going on but now totally confused:willy nilly: I have a protek which I am very fond of but its the older model not HD, I'm looking to upgrade to the new protek as this has had some good support (unlike the SV HD Combo non LAN)... Which is the box to go for for general sat (English) surfing ?? BLADE, PROTEK, DM, ?? so many to choose from. thanks