So i found a used sf4008 with 2x cable & 2x sat feeds for sale on another forum sub £200 inc recorded postage so i purchased it a week ago & so far im well impressed, im running it with a 500gb hdd & tuner a 2x cable & tuner b as single sat, the oscam was a breeze to set up & running the latest vix image with metric hd skin plus osram picons. the only pain was trying to figure out why my samsung k9000 series uhd 4k tv wouldnt work with it in 4k mode, i found you cant run pip with hdr chipset in the av setting on the sf4008 but all sorted now. Im still using my hd51 as spare room box in 1080p mode.