OK, I tested, last night and it worked perfectly on the timer with mgcam, tried again today on the replay and it failed again using OSCAM, found a work around if you really want to use OSCAM, when you set the the PPV to record add a minute to the start time so if it starts at 6pm for example set it to 6:01pm, I have tested it on two replays and it worked using this method, not ideal I know but works and PPV's have a lot of faff at the start anyway.