Multi LNB or Motorised dish ? Size and rough cost ideas
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Bluemoon2020
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no worries, I did not see you quoted his post.
Tried app but could not understand how this work and also asking for Pro version so have installed it.
Trees are about 10-15 meter i think.
Drox
TK Veteran
Just stand underneath your dish and use the ar view option, it’ll give you a picture of the arc. From there you’ll see whereabouts hotbird and Astra 1 are.
If the trees are 10m away, then you clear any obstacles with a height of roughly 5m in addition to the height of the dish’s location.
If the trees are 10m away, then you clear any obstacles with a height of roughly 5m in addition to the height of the dish’s location.
Kurdt Kobain
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What size is your dish?
Bluemoon2020
Member
For benefit of others who may be looking to upgrade their dish, here is my comparison with 80CM TM mesh dish vs 97CM TM mesh dish.
| Strongest Transponders fully updated 17th June 2021by William-1 | 80cm dish SNR | 97m dish SNR | % Improvement | ||||||||
| *MonacoSat @ 52°E 12303 V 27500 Türkmenist Sport HD=44% | 60% | 78% | 30% | ||||||||
| Türksat-3A @ 42°east 11054 V 30000 TRT World========84% | 78% | 91% | 17% | ||||||||
| Hellas Sat-4 @ 39°east 10730 H 30000 ERT World======83% | 81% | 92% | 14% | ||||||||
| Astra-1KR @ 19.2°east 11229 V 22000 BBC World=======84% | 72% | 84% | 17% | ||||||||
| Eutelsat-16A @ 16°east 11471 V 30000 Arena HD=======85% | not Scanned | 81% | N/A | ||||||||
| Hotbird-13B @ 13°east 11681 H27500 ARTE HD==========86% | 68% | 93% | 37% | ||||||||
| Hotbird-13C @ 13°east 11373 H 27500 NASA TV HD======81% | 70% | 90% | 29% | ||||||||
| Eutelsat-10A @ 10°east 11345 H 27500 AFP1 $=========80% | not Scanned | 71% | N/A | ||||||||
| Eutelsat-9A @ 9°east 12034 V 27500 W9 Swiss HD======83% | 69% | 83% | 20% | ||||||||
| Eutelsat-7B @ 7°east 11221 H 27500 TFM Senagal======79% | 60% | 75% | 25% | ||||||||
| Astra-4A @ 4.8°east 12303 H 25545 Belsat TV=========82% | 74% | 81% | 9% | ||||||||
| Thor-5 @ 0.7°west 12418 V 28000 Sky News Int=======79% | 62% | 79% | 27% | ||||||||
| Thor-6 @ 0.8°west 11900 H 30000 Music Ch===========79% | 64% | 71% | 11% | ||||||||
| ABS-3A @ 3°west 12739 V 13173 S2 ReteCapri==========78% | 35% | 61% | 74% | ||||||||
| Eutelsat-5West B @ 5°west 11096 29950 ViàVosges=====85% | 76% | 84% | 11% | ||||||||
| Hispasat 30W-5 @ 30°west 10890 V 27500 PARLIAMENTO==========87% | 67% | 79% | 18% | ||||||||
| Astra-3B @ 23.5°east 12012 V 29900 Rebel============87% | not Scanned | not Scanned | Still not scanned |
Out of interest what are of the UK are you in and what receiver did you use for the comparison.
Bluemoon2020
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Manchester and Duo2 .
Further from your PM, I used William-1 guide and compared with my 80cm before swapping to the new 97cm . So there should be three columns in total . I think William 1 is based in London and used 1 meter solid for his snr %. I hope that make sense
Ah right
You need to check your maths on ABS-3A @ 3°west
Good comparison not many do such an in depth one. Me i do 42e 0.8w and 30w lol .
Bluemoon2020
Member
Ah right
You need to check your maths on ABS-3A @ 3°west
Good comparison not many do such an in depth one. Me i do 42e 0.8w and 30w lol .
Thanks. Love numbers and analysis. Unfortunately that is what I do for living!! Maths can't be wrong I a sure . The snr went from 35 to 61 which is improvement of circa 75%
Drox
TK Veteran
Fez is after the absolute percentage change (table below), rather than the geometric gain.
| Strongest Transponders fully updated 17th June 2021by William-1 | 80cm dish SNR | 97m dish SNR | Change |
| *MonacoSat @ 52°E 12303 V 27500 Türkmenist Sport HD=44% | 60% | 78% | 18% |
| Türksat-3A @ 42°east 11054 V 30000 TRT World========84% | 78% | 91% | 13% |
| Hellas Sat-4 @ 39°east 10730 H 30000 ERT World======83% | 81% | 92% | 11% |
| Astra-1KR @ 19.2°east 11229 V 22000 BBC World=======84% | 72% | 84% | 12% |
| Eutelsat-16A @ 16°east 11471 V 30000 Arena HD=======85% | not Scanned | 81% | |
| Hotbird-13B @ 13°east 11681 H27500 ARTE HD==========86% | 68% | 93% | 25% |
| Hotbird-13C @ 13°east 11373 H 27500 NASA TV HD======81% | 70% | 90% | 20% |
| Eutelsat-10A @ 10°east 11345 H 27500 AFP1 $=========80% | not Scanned | 71% | |
| Eutelsat-9A @ 9°east 12034 V 27500 W9 Swiss HD======83% | 69% | 83% | 14% |
| Eutelsat-7B @ 7°east 11221 H 27500 TFM Senagal======79% | 60% | 75% | 15% |
| Astra-4A @ 4.8°east 12303 H 25545 Belsat TV=========82% | 74% | 81% | 7% |
| Thor-5 @ 0.7°west 12418 V 28000 Sky News Int=======79% | 62% | 79% | 17% |
| Thor-6 @ 0.8°west 11900 H 30000 Music Ch===========79% | 64% | 71% | 7% |
| ABS-3A @ 3°west 12739 V 13173 S2 ReteCapri==========78% | 35% | 61% | 26% |
| Eutelsat-5West B @ 5°west 11096 29950 ViàVosges=====85% | 76% | 84% | 8% |
| Hispasat 30W-5 @ 30°west 10890 V 27500 PARLIAMENTO==========87% | 67% | 79% | 12% |
can't remember size but was what required at time to get 0.8w to 44e i believe
Drox
TK Veteran
For 10e and 16e, was it that you never bothered scanning them or that the 80cm couldn’t pick them up?
Thats the one
Bluemoon2020
Member
80cm could not pick those. 16e was probably due to the trees but not sure about 10e.
10e seems to be only sat I did not get many channels scanned with new dish . I was scanning 54 channels with 80cm and now only 56 with 97cm.
Have not tried any feeds yet but looks like it wouldn't pick those for me.
Can some one please confirm number of channels they are getting on either 80cm or 97cm dish on this satellite?
With or without trees 16east can be a difficult transponder to pick up decent s.n.r The further you are from the centre off the footprint Most
Installers go above 80cm satellite dish to allow
For rain margin With 1.1 traix satellite dish multisat bracket I struggled to get good s.n.r
on 16 east larger satellite dish narrow beam
Will set up new installation at home with disqec switches Then take s.n.r readings and post
Installers go above 80cm satellite dish to allow
For rain margin With 1.1 traix satellite dish multisat bracket I struggled to get good s.n.r
on 16 east larger satellite dish narrow beam
Will set up new installation at home with disqec switches Then take s.n.r readings and post
mike142
TK Veteran
There aren't many channels on 10e, if you look on Flysat, apart from the BFBS channels on 11222 V 30000 there are just 18 other channels (I get signals on 16 of these),
If you're blind scanning 10e you will pick up channels from 9e as well.
16e - currently scanning in 53 TPs & 665 channels with a 1m dish.