thanks , especially to shortheath for responding (notwithstanding the others that have offer2d their advice 👍, thanks), tho as it cant be confirmed its original or not, then I am not tempted (I can buy a brand new clone for £120)
truth is I have gone from openbox, to zgemma in prob three or four weeks, I have a budget of around £170 and want to upgrade to something that is more responsive than the zgemma (which I think is a great receiver and WELL WORTH THE MONEY) I want a receiver with browser, not too bothered about card slots etc as I wouldn't know what to do with them being a noobie to all this) but having scart and usb is useful (tho not as useful as two usb's of course) I don't want a clone, so I cant brick it. reflashing etc doesn't bother me, so long as there is an idiots guide somewhere.
it must have twin tuners and internal hard drive or the chance to fit one is a big plus. so if anyone has anything that fits the bill ...... , otherwise I will be on to WoS prob on Monday morning