grahamer67
TK Veteran
You can get sky one, living, etc on tivo or v6 boxes now on the basic vm packages anyway. It will end some day and we cant complain when and if it does, we have all saved a fortune and had it so good for so long.
all VM channels gone off?
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channelking
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Ye your spot on there.
C/S was great.
I just wonder if those advertising everywhere and being greedy ruined it for everybody. Maybe if wasn't as known back then maybe sly and VM c/s would still be around in its original form.
There are cache servers back up and running at least partially, but from what I have read some are still getting freezing but not sure if that's just on mgcamd or oscam as well.
sky sports news and mix never did go the same way as the rest of the sport for some reason and I don't think VM would keep them nor the kids channels available to us during lockdown out of the kindness of their hearts. I personally think VM thought they had a way of stopping SD on C/S the other week without effecting official users of older boxes and didn't expect C/S to be able to get round it, especially so quickly, but I could be wrong.
Totally agree, it was never going to last forever and we've just got to be greatful that we are still getting most of the channels for peanuts a month.
Yes mate I know they were, but surely because on VM boxes they have gave the kids channels and ssn and mix for free during this pandemic then there could be a possibility of when this is over moving those channels to the newer caid? Just a thought lol
channelking
Member
Isnt it easy enough for them to move remaining channels to the new encryption without affecting legit users?
rs500nutter
TK Veteran
Dont think so because some users still have old boxes as far as i'm aware
no as the new encryption doesn't work on older boxes (those using cards). Not every vm user has updated to the Tivo or V6 boxes so it would mean VM turning off all customers still using the old boxes. I don't know how many that is but I am sure VM don't want to lose lots of customers
channelking
Member
That's true.
Kinda silly question but then how can they close remaining channels without changing people to newer boxes?
Because didn't sly change to newer encryption their channels without the need of customers being forced to change boxes?
Kinda silly question but then how can they close remaining channels without changing people to newer boxes?
Because didn't sly change to newer encryption their channels without the need of customers being forced to change boxes?
rs500nutter
TK Veteran
Yeah they sent letters out ages ago telling people of the upgrades etc but most people were moaning it was a forced upgrade to receive the new channels etc and i can imagine theres still a fair few old boxes in circulation
Customers where told last year that they needed to free upgrade to a V6 box if they wanted to keep sky sports before they went off. My provider also had a call telling him if he didn't upgrade to the V6 then his old boxes will stop working. Obviously to continue being a CS provider he had to stick with the old boxes otherwise his cards would stop working.
Jazzie_bee
Member
Sky run a different system with the box becoming the customers property after 12 months, VM it always remains their property so if they change up anything customers need to be done for free. Sky it'll be at your cost or theirs if you haggle.
grahamer67
TK Veteran
VM will probably put a few offers on when the sport comes back, sky sports for 6 months for £20-£25, give a minimum year contract and get the 2nd 6 months at about £40, a month, I think quite a lot of their customers would go for something like that as it would cover the rest of this season, plus all of next season, if it does not start too late, but it will have to be finished before next years Euro finals, Still be able to watch the rest of the season on Euro sats though, or iptv
rs500nutter
TK Veteran
Yeah its certainly going to be a cat and mouse game with offers thats for sure but they are gonna have to be good because theres so many people struggling with finances at the min and prioritise housing bills and food etc before anything else
channelking
Member
What ever offers/deals they will have no doubt they will set what ever price they want because they know people will be craving for sports when its back.
VM like many even during this time are not here to help customers who I might add without cant survive themselves. They just want to make as much money as they can and not suffer any more losses due to the virus.
VM like many even during this time are not here to help customers who I might add without cant survive themselves. They just want to make as much money as they can and not suffer any more losses due to the virus.
I have seen 20 years of this, old dm200 on cable, that went, then Satellite, so another DM on enigma 1, so then a Duo2 with twin Satellite Tuner, news of that going, so banged in a dual VM tuner, box running full Sly & Virmin.. then Satellite encryption hit and that went to Sh*t, so just Virmin, Sky F1 went, so along came IPTV, so now, FV Satellite, nearly full cable & IPTV/vod..
Virmin will go this year, I expect in a few months... so dual IPTV... if IPTV gets closed like the attempt last year then thats it... unless something new comes along... had a good run..
channelking
Member
Despite what happened with the software needed for IPTV last year it didn't kill iptv.actually made it stronger imo.
I can't see iptv really going like c/s has. Maybe that's just the optimist in me.
I can't see iptv really going like c/s has. Maybe that's just the optimist in me.
