Yeah some read to much internet. This vaccine was in the making for over 10 years it wasn't knocked up in 6 months in a crack heads bedsit. When it comes to choice I should have the choice as well whether I be treated with an unvaccinated doctor or a nurse. Let them be known so us as patience aren't at risk.Didn't think it would be long before the FREDOM thing would come!
Just get jabbed or is there something I don't know?
Well that's were I struggle to comprehend it all that they don't want the vaccine based on what ?, exactly as you described it "social media poison and lies". I base my view on, without the the vaccine we would all still have to be locked up at homeI have had both jabs and have no issue with having the vaccine and I don't bother with news of any kind including social media with the poison and lies being spread there.
But people may have genuine reasons health related or otherwise why they may choose not to take the vaccine as not all people believe the propoganda like the vaccine will kill them, they will grown multiple limbs etc
So I would actually respect those peoples decisions but that's just my opinion on it.
Where I work, the only people having time off are the vaccinated. Btw I ain't antivax. If you want it or not that's your business not mine. You have a choice......... for now.Not they dont. LFT's have an accuracy of
They become more likely to become infected than vaccinated careworkers. This results in more days off work, also, unvaccinated workers have to self isolate if they are named as close contacts resulting in more time off work.
No problem with that but, don't work in the NHS and don't go to hospital when you cannot breath with Covid.
This is the exact same scenario for Covid, we are getting jabbed with low dose modified Covid jabs to help our own anti bodies fight it, basically getting ready for when we get infected with Covid.
Maybe he's believes like most people, that it's entirely up to the individual what they put in their own body?I'm gonna finish by saying this guy has an hidden agenda as to why people should not be forced vaccined to keep their jobs in the NHS and care homes,
I can't see what the fuss is about, they've had ample warning, they either have the vaccine or get another job.
You are less likely to spread covid Inc the Delta variant if fully vaccinated. ( not saying you can't but the % is reduced) various sources not BBCYou can't see what the fuss is about because you're only considering your own opinion and not thinking about how other people feel. I'm considering people's rights to choose. No one should be coerced/bribed with their employment if they're genuinely scared of the vaccine or just choose to not have it. It's their body and no one else's to decide.
Especially when the vaccinated can spread it as easy as the unvaccinated.
If the vaccine stopped the spread then I would agree.
I am thinking about how other people feel.You can't see what the fuss is about because you're only considering your own opinion and not thinking about how other people feel. I'm considering people's rights to choose. No one should be coerced/bribed with their employment if they're genuinely scared of the vaccine or just choose to not have it. It's their body and no one else's to decide.
Especially when the vaccinated can spread it as easy as the unvaccinated.
If the vaccine stopped the spread then I would agree.
A nurse and doctor went through years of training and hardwork to make a difference and most importantly, save livesI am thinking about how other people feel.
I'm thinking about families of people who have contracted the virus when in hospital for something routine like knee/hip operations and ended up losing their life.
Those families and loved ones have the right to know that care givers aren't part of the problem.
Yes I know it still transmits regardless of vaccine status but there's still the possibility that a mutation could have played a role.
You say NHS workers have the right to choose but the patient's they're dealing with every day have none.
If they are absolutely adamant that they will not get vaccinated, ever, then they need to examine their career choice.
If they're of the mind where they don't want it, yet, then this will be the kick up the arse they've been needing.
The vaccine doesn't stop the spread.
It does stop severe illness and a lot of unnecessary deaths
Exactly. So if you've taken it like me and you, you're safe. If you say the vaccine doesn't stop you spreading it what's the difference between the two? They only difference is one is protected. The other isn't. That's THEIR choice.It does stop severe illness and a lot of unnecessary deaths
I am thinking about how other people feel.
I'm thinking about families of people who have contracted the virus when in hospital for something routine like knee/hip operations and ended up losing their life.
Those families and loved ones have the right to know that care givers aren't part of the problem.
Yes I know it still transmits regardless of vaccine status but there's still the possibility that a mutation could have played a role.
A nurse and doctor went through years of training and hardwork to make a difference and most importantly, save lives
If we carry the same viral load, and the mutations aren't proven to come from unvaccinated, how has the death rate come down to a few hundred a day when there's no restrictions in place?Exactly. So if you've taken it like me and you, you're safe. If you say the vaccine doesn't stop you spreading it what's the difference between the two? They only difference is one is protected. The other isn't. That's THEIR choice.
They aren't a part of the problem and they haven't played a role anymore than someone already vaccinated. Again, you're carry the same viral load regardless of vaccine status. Linked above. The mutation you keep talking about isn't proven to come from the unvaccinated. There's a "possibility" the mutation is caused by the vaccine.
If we carry the same viral load, and the mutations aren't proven to come from unvaccinated, how has the death rate come down to a few hundred a day when there's no restrictions in place?
When full restrictions were in place and no vaccine available we were seeing over 1000 deaths daily
Because imuno-suppressed people who can't have the vaccine don't have to go the pub or on the bus, they do have to go to hospital or to doctors.Agreed. But you stated above everyone should have it? So not sure why you bring only those two positions up.
100% agree, everywhere is open, football staduims are full to the max every single week, the country is back to normal in a sence and covid cases and deaths remain steady, I like to think the vaccine is doing its jobIf we carry the same viral load, and the mutations aren't proven to come from unvaccinated, how has the death rate come down to a few hundred a day when there's no restrictions in place?
When full restrictions were in place and no vaccine available we were seeing over 1000 deaths daily