Covid19 Vaccination

[bazcfc1]

Do you know what the donkeys on Blackpool beach have for their lunch?

- half an hour like everyone else

I know mate I'm one feeding them lmfao

 

[RapidDevil]

Good point does that go for all the fat people who smoke and drink? Would they also have to sign? 2 biggest killers in the world (overweight and smoking) massive strain on our NHS

It's not quite the same but very similar, yes. Just to be clear I didn't say I thought it should happen but that it's an interesting point of discussion. Not everyone that won't have the vaccine will have the same reasons. Some for example, some still think the whole thing is a hoax and that it's not even a thing that they can catch (because it's not even a thing....) some people think there's not enough certainty about the long term safety of the vaccine. At the end of the day it all boils down to risk factor and trust and that's where people's opinions inevitably differ but I believe any risk factor needs to be weighed up against the alternative solution, which there doesn't appear to be one at the moment.

As I said earlier, it's a personal choice for everyone and people will have different reasons for either taking it or not doing so. I don't think anyone should be pressured into having it, although people's jobs will somewhat be a factor to differing degrees. What I really hope is that everyone has the same accurate information available to them, so that they can make an informed decision. The chances are that you and I will look at the same information an interpret it (or more importantly the risk factor) differently and that's fine. What's really harmful is some of the misinformation being spread around social media, blatant lies to suit an agenda.

 

[Obi wan bissaka]

As I said earlier, it's a personal choice for everyone and people will have different reasons for either taking it or not doing so. I don't think anyone should be pressured into having it, although people's jobs will somewhat be a factor to differing degrees. What I really hope is that everyone has the same accurate information available to them, so that they can make an informed decision. The chances are that you and I will look at the same information an interpret it (or more importantly the risk factor) differently and that's fine. What's really harmful is some of the misinformation being spread around social media, blatant lies to suit an agagenda.

Agreed mate

 

[channelking]

Whole of every day life and way we do things have changed forever. There is no going back to how it was before. This is the new "normal"

Vaccine and vaccinated people will play a big part of how things shape and move forward.

Everyone lets be honest will have to adapt to all different changes that will be required as time goes on.

 

[voyager1972]

Obviously it will never be a thing and goes against everything the NHS stands for but I wonder if those that choose not to have the vaccine would be willing to sign a disclaimer to say they agree to be refused hospital treatment if they develop covid? I'm not saying that should happen but it's an interesting point of discussion.

interesting point indeed,, that should also be applied to the drug companies, make them liable for the lives they have destroyed over the years,, that works both ways.

 

[pabloescaban]

interesting point indeed,, that should also be applied to the drug companies, make them liable for the lives they have destroyed over the years,, that works both ways.

What's your suggestion with regards to all medicines all over the world?
All of them have side effects, one that can be bought over the counter without a prescription can cause internal bleeding, kidney failure, worsen asthma by narrowing airways and cause high blood pressure (Ibuprofen)
Millions take it daily with no problems but maybe we shouldn't be thinking about the millions of daily users getting pain relief and concentrate on the one in 10 million who had a bad side effect, and put a stop to this and all other medicines. That'll stop the "big pharma" cashing in.
While we're at it, I think Tesco are just cashing in on human hunger, I don't know who they think they are, they know people have to eat to survive and yet they charge people for food

 

[teddybloat]

interesting point indeed,, that should also be applied to the drug companies, make them liable for the lives they have destroyed over the years,, that works both ways.

drug companies have had a hugely positive effect on human wellbeing. it's not close either. without big pharma life would be harder, more painful and shorter.

simply the profit they make is evidence of this.

ordinarily, they are very much liable for mistakes, that liability has been suspended to encourage companies to be bold in getting the vaccines to the public, but this is a very unique situation.

Cliffs on the Oxford vaccine:

Approved this morning

After first dose zero hospital admissions

Can have a long gap between first and second dose

This means we can mass vaccinate and give excellent protection

January 4th will be mass roll out

Manufacturer is foregoing profit meaning a shot costs 2 quid.

2 shot = life saved for four quid.

Is easily produced with an estimated 3 billion doses to be produced this year.

Drs can carry the vaccine in a cold bag and it will be ok for 12hrs

Oxford uni had been prepping delivery method of vaccine for year,s anticipating a pandemic. They felt one was coming without knowing what or when

Seems to be 100% effective at preventing hospitalisations even in older people

Game changer

 

[teddybloat]

things that will piss off ant vax in 2021:

1 higher insurance premiums
2 not being able to go to benidorm - i'd wager good money its their destination of choice
3 the development of transmissible vaccinations - Transmissible Viral Vaccines

Genetic engineering now enables the design of live viral vaccines that are potentially transmissible. Some designs merely modify a single viral genome to improve on the age-old method of attenuation whereas other designs create chimeras of viral genomes. Transmission has the benefit of increasing herd immunity above that achieved by direct vaccination alone but also increases the opportunity for vaccine evolution...

they are simply going to engineer vaccines that are transmittable person to person and will spread virally amongst a population.

if one could buy stock in the number of websearches the terms "bill gates" + "microchip" + "5g vaccine" will generate over the coming months we could get rich boys

 

[pabloescaban]

Maybe there's a completely different conspiracy theory.
Virus is man-made in order to rid the human race of the ignorami

 

[pupuqiop]

To go back to the original question on the first post, "Will you be having the coronavirus vaccine when your time comes to be offered it?" I'd say from the people who've responded the overwhelming majority will be accepting the offer to be vaccinated. Demographically, this is probably not a reflection on overall society though... I'd guess the people who've responded are mainly aged 35-70 year old males. The objections to the vaccination possibly lie more within the 18-30 age group and hippies.

 

[36red]

Is their any undercurrent with these vaccines? What if they are administered to millions of people then a new virus appears that cannot be cured for those who have already had the vaccine?
I'm giving it a miss personally until much more proof can be produced that it actually has works and is safe. we are talking lives here!

 

[pabloescaban]

Is their any undercurrent with these vaccines? What if they are administered to millions of people then a new virus appears that cannot be cured for those who have already had the vaccine?
I'm giving it a miss personally until much more proof can be produced that it actually has works and is safe. we are talking lives here!

1.3m have had it in UK
By next week double that will have had it and two million a week before February arrives.
The new type of vaccines can be tweaked in the lab over 24/48 hours and production of 'new' vaccines within a week.
The same vaccine can be tweaked to protect against many different viruses not just coronavirus

 

[teddybloat]

What if they are administered to millions of people then a new virus appears that cannot be cured for those who have already had the vaccine?

i mean in that situation you are goosed anyway as there is no way you'd take any vaccine for the second virus if that was the experience of the first

if i were you i wouldn't worry about things, you're just going to stress yourself out by trying to think things through

 

[RapidDevil]

I'm giving it a miss personally until much more proof can be produced that it actually has works

It has. People have been having the jabs since March, over 20k people showing it works....? All information is in the public domain.

 

[gravehead]

Just have the f****** vaccine you bunch of cowards.
You'll eat chicken nuggets and sausages without a seconds hesitation and you don't know whats in them.
Grow a pair and pull down your panties and get jabbed if not for yourself do it for the ones closest to you that you are supposed to love and look after.
F****** nancies

 

[bazcfc1]

Just have the f****** vaccine you bunch of cowards.
You'll eat chicken nuggets and sausages without a seconds hesitation and you don't know whats in them.
Grow a pair and pull down your panties and get jabbed if not for yourself do it for the ones closest to you that you are supposed to love and look after.
F****** nancies

Where do I send picture too!!!! (lmfao)
I will be having vaccine when time comes not for my sake but for my family's sake to me will just be like going for flu jab but as you put it all, these cowards will go for yearly booster to go abroad ect but won't have a vaccine to potentially help reduce the risk/spread of a Killer virus.

 

[gravehead]

I would have the vaccine anyway, but when a lady comes into my shop between Xmas and New Year to order a headstone for her healthy 63 year old husband and her 37 year old daughter who both died from Covid it makes you stand up and pay attention.
Is it really too much to ask to try and help everyone by having an injection?
I have dealt with people who have lost loved ones even kids for the last 15 years, but having to spend an hour with this lady under these circumstances is something that will stay with me for a long time and I could do with not repeating.

 

[bonus2010]

Is it really too much to ask to try and help everyone by having an injection?

Yes, I feel it is, if the vaccine being offered puts your own life at risk. I'm also mindful that there are 388 people under age of 60 with no underlying health conditions who have died of Covid-19 recorded in England. And, I also note that the total covid deaths being spoutedand reported by main stream are total lies (50,000+) and that even those official government figures are reliant on a unreliable (PCR) test and are subject to many documented inaccurate false count methods.

 

[pabloescaban]

Yes, I feel it is, if the vaccine being offered puts your own life at risk. I'm also mindful that there are 388 people under age of 60 with no underlying health conditions who have died of Covid-19 recorded in England. And, I also note that the total covid deaths being spoutedand reported by main stream are total lies (50,000+) and that even those official government figures are reliant on a unreliable (PCR) test and are subject to many documented inaccurate false count methods.

Cool story Bro.
Could have used a dinosaur though

 

[Ontap]

Yes, I feel it is, if the vaccine being offered puts your own life at risk. I'm also mindful that there are 388 people under age of 60 with no underlying health conditions who have died of Covid-19 recorded in England. And, I also note that the total covid deaths being spoutedand reported by main stream are total lies (50,000+) and that even those official government figures are reliant on a unreliable (PCR) test and are subject to many documented inaccurate false count methods.

Sounds like you swallowed all the misinformation spread on social media hook line and sinker, sad but there are a few of you around. Just hope none of you will want foreign holidays in the future, its a fair bet that most countries will insist on proof of vaccination as a condition of entry to protect their own citizens.