question, I know sly are blocking our channels for anyone using c/s but have they actually stopped the same channels for the actual card holder(those that we purchase the c/line from) I would say that if the original card holder can still receive the channels that have gone black then there should be some code(embedded) that has been sent to their box to stop them c/s/ing,if this is the case then someone must be able to crack this new code that is causing the problem by analysing their box for code that is not on a card/box that has not been c/s/ing,this is probably not the right place to ask as we are all tight buggers wishing to save a few quid so probably don't have access to a legal box that has never c/s before to see if they can receive these black channels. If teenagers in their bedrooms can hack the c I a and other high security sites then these very same people would have the intelligence to solve our problem.personally for me I joined the party too late to have received much benefit but I'm sure that there are thousands of people/organisations that are supplying and making money from this current scheme worldwide that someone somewhere will come up with a fix.