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cokeaddict said:
Where did anyone defend the encryption ?

I simply pointed out that it isn’t just a case of getting access to the box and then it’s game over (or everything can be copied).

There is a huge thread on a German board where they have been trying to pull it all apart but so far it doesn’t seem like they have got anywhere with it.
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The people in this thread singing the praises of this new hack are the same ones who did the same in the early days of the last time it was temporarily cracked in the viark early days.
Ironically the same pain in the arse member, me, is saying the same things again, it didn't stop hundreds of people buying into it and getting ripped off but I live in hope.
Of course this new hack and the old hack are completely unrelated and the fact that the same people are saying the same things is just coincidence, no really.


Whether it can be pulled apart or hacked is irrelevant but it probably will be, I'm just letting people know that if/when it is, they'll have to use IPTV and say goodbye to their remaining 11 months they've paid for.
I'm not even sure there's a market for it now, it would only be used as a backup to IPTV so would have to be half the cost of an IPTV sub given that it only carries a tenth of the content
 
I think in time if it's stable it will become popular again. I only watch sky UK on IPTV apart from games not available on sky UK so stable satellite would be ok for me like I stuck with old lines until they became unstable.

Bigger advantage would be those with multisat with sky de (if they have Icam) etc but I don't think they would fork out for a box just for sky UK then another for de if they are using the same method of needing a specific image/box.

That's only my view though and I wouldn't buy separate boxes for different services. My box (vu+ Uno4K) is more than capable of decrypting channels and playing IPTV.

Again only time will tell for this. We are all looking at ways to avoid paying sky prices so I hope those that purchase get there use out of it.
 
Me too but going on previous results it's not looking too good.
If it is the 'next big thing' which I hope it is, it would be offered in 1 ,3 ,6 month subs.
The fact it's all shady and 12m lines only and tied to one or two boxes means it's another crock of sh!t like last time.
I don't even own a dish so I won't be trying it anyway.

I think they're a few years too late, if they'd sorted something in 2019 they might have had a chance but IPTV has got so much better in past 18-24 months that I doubt many would be interested even if it was the same price. Trying to charge even a little more than IPTV for a lot less might be too much of a tall order IMV.
 
pabloescaban said:
Me too but going on previous results it's not looking too good.
If it is the 'next big thing' which I hope it is, it would be offered in 1 ,3 ,6 month subs.
The fact it's all shady and 12m lines only and tied to one or two boxes means it's another crock of sh!t like last time.
I don't even own a dish so I won't be trying it anyway.

I think they're a few years too late, if they'd sorted something in 2019 they might have had a chance but IPTV has got so much better in past 18-24 months that I doubt many would be interested even if it was the same price. Trying to charge even a little more than IPTV for a lot less might be too much of a tall order IMV.
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This is pretty much how I feel currently. Many who have decent IPTV subs and purchase these new lines will end up using their IPTV more often than the icam lines as they have no guarantee of ppv events, 3pm's and so many other events that you just can't get on 28.2. That's not even including the vod you get which so many IPTV providers offer nowadays. You can't even record on these boxes which makes them even more useless I feel unless your literally home pretty much all the time.

The length of subs is also a big 1 as if your confident in your service you should have no bother issuing lines for shorter periods. If anything you'll be making more money as they work out more expensive over a 12 month period. But they always have excuses for why they can't. They very rarely want to accept payment via PayPal goods and services either which is another warning sign.

I was 1 who purchased a line last year for £55 and it lasted a few weeks and was down more than it was working in that period. Some people on here was getting the same lines for £25 or so. Shows you how much some sellers end up scamming there customers. This kind of thing literally pops up every year now just before Xmas or summer holidays, last a few months and then disappears. Always have the same excuses on the way out too about falling ill/family deaths etc. Meanwhile the sellers be going on holidays and buying plenty of present having scammed loads. Support is usually non existent too.

All in all these subs should be sold for a maximum of £30 I feel as that can get you a very decent IPTV sub these days which offer way more. I hope I'm wrong about all this and this hack stays for a long period but after last year I have no confidence at all.
 
pabloescaban said:
So no reason at all why it has to be h11 or h9, yet these are the only boxes it will work on?
It would work on h7 or any other enigma2 box with a sat tuner.
The only reason I can think of why they want people to buy one of these is that they already have a container full of each
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I suspect the choice of boxes it works on was chosen simply because their cheap .

Also with the image been locked closed preparing images for multiple boxes with it all stripped out is time consuming.

moshibeth said:
I can promise you no custom build image is safe on linux . Clowns tried this on the last hack and failed massively
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But even then you would have to get around the activation !

pabloescaban said:
We're all normal members, and it's obvious that you know quite a lot.
What I like about these threads, is that those who say things like ' we don't flap our lips about it on TK' and, 'it's no surprise people keep quiet about it' are the ones who are offering all the information about the boxes.
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I guess grog starting the thread on the disbeliever side of things helped that along. And the fact it was all over facebook so very public knowledge.

I just look at the stick i got on the Viark thread and Via PM from the IPTV lads to know how a thread like this would turn out.

So why bother ?

Im also not defending the hack and i have also said i would not buy it and agree with you on one point no short period subs is an alarm bell. What i am defending is Icam is done and that is a very good thing regardless of it been private.

Now people saying the hack will go could be right and because it appears they may be just one server, thats a very good point. No one here is telling anyone to buy it and those with the info on this thread have no vested interest in doing so.

IPTV resellers go down all the time and people loose their money, one such seller did on me just a month ago but you hear little of it because there is so many options to get the service back just throw more money at another seller. So i was ripped off you take your chance. Nothing safe in this game regardless of what method you use to view with.
 
OK this thread has gone far further than I expected, but I admit I am open minded.

1. It has been said on here that 'no one is buying into it', well I doubt that is the case, I am sure there are lots of people are reading this and trying to find out how to get hold of it, just because they are not saying so on here doesn't mean they are not. It does make sense to an extent to keep it's use small. with cs everyone and his dog could get it making it a target and worth the money spent to shut it down, with a smaller usage of this new hack, is it going to be such a high priority for sly to do that? also most good IPTV resellers do exactly the same thing, they don't sell subs to all and sundry, they restrict it to people they think they can trust.

2. for those that use IPTV this will never replace it, but even in this day and age there are still those that can't use IPTV reliably, I was talking to someone a couple of months ago who tried IPTV and it was carp for him, it turned out he was on basic BB package and was only getting 2.5Mbps and had to upgrade his BB to get it to work, now I don't know how this hacks work but I am assuming it won't require the same BB speed as IPTV.

3. I hadn't heard of this hack before yesterday, and it appears nor had a lot of people, as I said above, I am sure this is deliberate but after a bit of digging it appears to me it is only available on these two boxes purely because they're the only two that have had the image created for them, I would assume whoever is behind this would need a box to create the image for and test it, that's a lot of boxes and would take time. I know how long it used to take just to create a build for a new box until I changed the setup, but even then I was using already developed base image (ATV/VIX), we don't know if this image is built on anything like that, if not and they've created from scratch then it would take forever to do it for lots of boxes.

4. we have to stop comparing the cost of this to IPTV as it's a different target audience to an extend, even with IPTV if you've never had cs etc then you need to buy a box or firestick on top of the iptv sub, so the actual difference in cost is just a few quid, and many don't need channels from all over the world, porn or 3pm kick offs

I still think IPTV is king and this hack may just be the jester, I got burnt last time big time by one of those already mentioned on this thread and so always weary, but because of that it doesn't mean that every new hack that comes out is a scam. There are obviously IPTV resellers posting on this thread that just don't want this to work and will go out of their way to slag it off, I just say, it's unknown, it could well be a scam, it may not be a scam but still get switched of for one reason or another tomorrow, or it may last. If you don't have £150 to risk then don't even think about it, just use that to pay your next month and a half sky subscription.

And there ends todays sermon
 
Tbh if this new hack works then it works a lot of us bought into the last hack I did I got a couple of pms telling me who was selling the lines luckily enough I wasn’t stupid to go with that person as he got named and shamed but ended up going with another member on here and when it stopped just took it on chin.
As for resellers trying to cast doubt I don’t think that is the case just merely been skeptic about it and having a view on the matter.
Some members do seem to know more than others about it and good for them and as long as they don’t openly post the ins and outs so be it.
Like everything in life it’s a gamble and grog has made very good points in what he’s posted above.
If you have money to throw at it then do so if you don’t then don’t bother.
 
Well this thread certainly took off quick. And great to see a healthy discussion about it. Haven't had to edit/delete a single post and these threads usually get heated.
Anyone thinking they can't talk about sky here is mistaken. We welcome it.
The only reason we've stopped it previously is because it was used to sell subs that resulted in our members being ripped off time and time again. Then we get it in the ear for allowing it so we can't win.

Anyway enjoy your weekend all ✌️.
 
Ferret. said:
I guess grog starting the thread on the disbeliever side of things helped that along. And the fact it was all over facebook so very public knowledge.

I just look at the stick i got on the Viark thread and Via PM from the IPTV lads to know how a thread like this would turn out.
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I don't think anyone in the IPTV world has anything to worry about, they had nothing to worry about with the viark boxes and even if this new hack is a hundred times more stable it still wouldn't have an impact on IPTV.
If it does catch on it would only be as a backup to IPTV, only a small percentage of people with poor internet access would choose this over streaming as their primary viewing.
 
pabloescaban said:
only a small percentage of people with poor internet access would choose this over streaming as their primary viewing.
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I would disagree, I know lots of people who use IPTV but are still wanting to know if/when sat comes back. Not necessarily to replace IPTV but to use along side, IPTV recording for example is hit and miss, and although we have catchup there are a lot of people who still like to record TV, heck my mrs does, far prefers recording her soaps rather than go through catch up to find and watch it.
 
grog68 said:
I would disagree, I know lots of people who use IPTV but are still wanting to know if/when sat comes back. Not necessarily to replace IPTV but to use along side, IPTV recording for example is hit and miss, and although we have catchup there are a lot of people who still like to record TV, heck my mrs does, far prefers recording her soaps rather than go through catch up to find and watch it.
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Yes that's what I said, it'll be used alongside IPTV if anyone bothers with it, no one is going to replace IPTV with hacked satellite channels, unless they want lose all the 3pm games, VOD movies and series and all the thousands of other channels.
All the soaps are available on Freeview and Freesat 👍
 
pabloescaban said:
I don't think anyone in the IPTV world has anything to worry about, they had nothing to worry about with the viark boxes and even if this new hack is a hundred times more stable it still wouldn't have an impact on IPTV.
If it does catch on it would only be as a backup to IPTV, only a small percentage of people with poor internet access would choose this over streaming as their primary viewing.
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You sound like the chap who came up with the idea of Sky Glass
 
Personally I didn't bother with it as the boxes are not the best. Iptv is really good quality now so it will do me.. if it ever comes to better boxes than yes I would snap it up lol.
 
Lets be honest the satellite request thread would light up if this became available mainstream as C/S was. :whistle: Its like a graveyard compared to the iptv one.
 
hedges2016 said:
Personally I didn't bother with it as the boxes are not the best. Iptv is really good quality now so it will do me.. if it ever comes to better boxes than yes I would snap it up lol.
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IPTV has improved massively in past two years.
I don't think an antiquated system will have any impact on it, especially if it's going to be more expensive and with a fraction of the content
 
pabloescaban said:
If it does catch on it would only be as a backup to IPTV, only a small percentage of people with poor internet access would choose this over streaming as their primary viewing.
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Sorry but what ?

Are you seriously suggesting, that taking a sat feed and then converting it to an iptv feed provides a better source of material then just delivering the original sat feed ?

Really ????
 
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